Commentary - William Elliopulos  9th Generation HFY Disciple (S.F. Kwoon)


I'd like to share my early observations of the training methodologies behind the centerline pak sau.  As always, my understanding continues to evolve and  grow.  I encourage everyone to share their thoughts, ideas and feelings about the HFY system they study.

The nature of centerline “jong sing” pak sau.

There are three levels of progression/awareness in the HFY centerline pak sau curriculum and an understanding of Gong Sau vs. Gau Sau is necessary and will be discussed below.

At the first stage of learning a person comes from nothing and has nothing. The focus is on Gong Sau or communicating hand and teaches us how to start to feel comfortable receiving an incoming punch and the proper Dui Ying body positioning. In most Wing Chun schools they consider Gong Sau when you attack your opponent. In HFY we make a distinction between Gong Sau and Gau Sau. The essence of Gong Sau/Gau Sau is represented in the Yin/Yang symbol. On one side it can be considered too hard and the other too soft. At the line of intersection is a place of harmony where neither side has an advantage and where all things are considered neutral. In the second and third progressions of Jong Sing Pak Sau we start to see the essence that we are looking for, the HFY identity. 

 Progressions #1:  Fau Kui or Wandering 

-   Teach a person to start to touch an opponents hand. 

-   Remember that there may be students who have never taken martial arts or have even gotten into a fight.

-      You must caution the students before the exercise to not punch to hard at first and also to not pak too hard for the above reason. 

-   There must be a sense of cooperation between opponents.

-      A student must experience many different partners to understand the different energies.

-     Focus on the Jong Sing pak sau tool – striking point, slightly cupped hand

-    Focus on the point of contact – Just above the persons wrist.

-     Focus on the structure of the Pak Hand which is not bent which can cause injury.

Progression #2: Understanding the true nature of the centerline Pak Sau through - Be true to the centerline.   

-      One object can occupy one space at one time.  If my hand is occupying the centerline then your punch is not going to hit me.

-     Hands travel on the centerline and not from the side.

-    Focus on the Sup Man Dim body positions in order for it’s nature to be a true Pak Saus:

o     Stiking point on center

o  Striking point on a triangle reference between the upper reference point (upper lip) and middle reference point (solar plexis)

o    Elbow is on the Yin line and is one fist away from the body

o   In this position, if the person attempts to throw a punch with their other hand it has no place to go.

o    One stone kills two birds which is the HFY way and shows true awareness.

       Some Wing Chun branches will bring the hand to the centerline but down to the waist level and will call this centerline pak sau.   HFY would consider this a distortion since it leaves the whole upper gate open and each person has an opportunity within that time and space to hit the other person.  Neither person has an advantage but the focus is on hitting right away.  Not the HFY way and shows a sense of Wandering or Fau Ki level of understanding.  One hand against one.

-       This position is considered Gong Sau.

Progression #3:   Come into focus which is true to the HFY six gate positioning 

-   In this progression one person will punch to the middle reference point.

-       Since my hands are traveling on the centerline and from above, once my hands occupy the proper space.

-       Focus on the Sup Man Dim body position:

o    Striking point on center

o  Striking point on a triangle reference between the upper reference point (upper lip) and middle reference point (solar plexis)

o    Elbow is on the Yin line and is one fist away from the body.

o     Wau Sau hand is on the centerline next to the elbow.

o    Both hands are on the center and the same side of the punch. 

-   Focus which is true to the six gate position and also considered Gong Sau.

-    At this stage, we are in total control and in a position to transition into Gau Sau where things are in our advantage.

-    Depending on the incoming energy or lack thereof we can either:

o    Move forward using the HFY footwork to attack the throat.

o  Receive the incoming punch with the opponents opposite hand with an inside pak sau leaving the opponents head wide open.

o Receive the incoming punch which crosses the centerline with a Tan Sau and then a Tuk Sau pushing the opponent off their center. 

This was a brief synopsis of a complex training process which should be practiced with a qualified instructor.














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